Riding Every Day wrote:Firstly, well done Canuck for intervening.
In defence of the coppers, what would you have them do?
Surely summoning an ambulance is a reasonable reaction given the circumstances described?
I'm confused by the reaction to what these cops have supposedly done.
Re: ambulance - I only stated that they arrived - did not give any opinion on this situation. But I believe given his post, etc, Allez Allez may have certain opinions... (edit - don't mean to appear to speak for him here - you'd have to ask him his opinion!)
Re: the police - only stating that I was not impressed - this was mainly due to their verbal interactions with him, and the sequencing of things, which served to inflame the situation. This guy was so drunk he could barely sit himself upright on the nature strip to talk to them.
I would have them start with introductions - of themselves (even if just to say that they are police officers if they don't want to give names), and then get his name; I would expect them to explain why they were there (e.g. someone had called them) and what they would to do for him/with him (e.g. ask him some questions, see if he was ok, help him); I would think it would not be helpful for them to use explicit language ('f^cking') when in dialogue with him, no matter whether he uses it or not; I would expect them to ask before taking his wallet out of his hand (this is what really set him off and made them return it to him to get out his ID by himself); I would suggest they not 'suggest' things to him about what had happened (e.g. 'I see you have blood on your face' - 'Do I?' - 'Yeah, what happened? Were you battered/in a punch up or something?' - sorry paraphrasing a bit as I cannot recall exact words - they used battered with him in the rest of the conversation...)
Very simple things that would not take any more effort or time, but might shorten the situation and make him more compliant. They had all the power in the situation, and the guy was completely calm when they arrived, so no need to rile things up... A simple drunk in a public place charge can easily, and unneccessarily, be escalated into a drunk and disorderly (or related) charge.
Those are a few things that I would think would help keep the guy calm given his state. Only my opinion. I do not claim to know the ins and outs of their duties. But I have observed many an officer handle similar situations in very safe, effective and respectful ways.