Do people really think that the council hasn't asked VicRoads to fix the Vic Pde dog leg? Do you think that VicRoads really cares that much about bikes when they have no cash to spend on bikes. I dont think it is a priority for VicRoads on a major arterial road. Rather than poo pooing Council for what they can't do why not congratulate them on putting their money where their mouth is. We need to be pragmatic. Yes the proposal does end at Johnston St. Should we not do it because it just ends. Dont be silly. If we used that logic then we would never actually build anything unless we constructed Copenhagen Lanes that drop everyone off at the doorstep. It is all incrementalism. You build the bike lanes mid-block because you can fit them in even if you cant put them in at the intersections. When the bike numbers increase you can then remove a traffic lane and put in a bike lane. You do the things you can.
The lanes may not be needed for the current cyclists but have a think about the cyclists that we want to ride. Would your mum (mine is 60yo) feel comfortable riding on Wellington St. Would you let your son or daughter ride on the current arrangement on Wellington Street. Whenever I build my facilities, I dont design for the current cyclists, they will ride where ever. We need to build good separated facilities to try and get NEW cyclists out and riding.
O'Heas street isn't working well. Council has been having problems with it since it was built. Cars just arent expecting the contraflow cyclists. VicRoads just spent $350k on upgrading Heidelberg Rd. I can't work out where the money went but they apparently spend it...
Wow great attitude.
Having dealt with local councils before I would not be surprised at all if they hadn't approached Vicroads.
So disjointed bits of bike lane all over Melbourne are the way to go, not a planned continuous system. Sounds like quality
engineering like yours got us into the mess we have now. Cherry picking easy bits of road to put bike lanes on that leads nowhere instead tackling problematic areas.
I have seen children riding on Wellington street and would let my mother ride on it (she is 78, is this a competition?)
To be honest I find your posts like your user name incredibly pompus. Like most engineers I have worked with (it is a lot) a ridiculous self belief in what you have been taught and very little concept of what goes on in the real world. Or am I just been silly again.
King of NAF.