AMcCulloch wrote:I am just curious, I've only seen one "Copenhagen" if you call it that on the Yarra Boulevard and I have had a very unpleasant experience with that one.
cileo wrote:Wasn't talking to you Victor. Regardless, this is a completely different proposal, no contraflow riding involved, so the comparsion is null.
human909 wrote:This is the Fifth major "Copenhagen" Lane done in Melbourne that I know of. Yet not one of them has yet got it right. What I fear is eventually we'll end up with either of hodge-podge of different lane styles or people will give up because they haven't worked.
Why do we have to experiment when there are plenty of good examples overseas?
Riddley wrote:Not au fait with all of them, but I have tried the Fitzroy St one, (North). I really hated it. I think unidirectional must be better.
Riddley wrote:Discussing this the other day... is it better to have SOME infrastructure even if it is not very good, than NO infrastructure?
Riddley wrote:And then what about priorities? I'd rather see the "disappearing lanes" fixed (eg Heidelberg Rd) than massive roadworks, concreting and painted lanes in areas that might already be working OK, eg Wellington.
I went skiing today. Their smart card system seems to work better than Myki and can be used to pay for items on the slopes if you so wish. MYKI was absolute incompetence.Riddley wrote:And yes, there are plenty of good OS models. But then we also needed to develop our own MYKI rather than use OYSTER. See how well that works?
roshea wrote:David_G wrote:Great picture.Thanks for thinking of looking it up.
I can't take the credit, but the person who did it might not want to be identified here (I don't know).
Marx wrote:(lazy didn’t read whole thread):
Does the current bike lane in Wellington St need changing? Looks OK to me.
Stone Free wrote:I ride and work along Wellington St, and I don't think Copenhagen lanes are necessary.
TheEngineer wrote:Yes and No
It works fine as a bike lane for the people already using it....
...3) interested but concerned types that may or may not ride - currently drive, pt or walk but would think about changing if the conditions were right such as providing for separated facilities where they feel comfortable and can build on their skills. Make up maybe 60% of the population
cold_erin wrote:I like separated lanes. They make me feel safer, and I'm more likely to cycle somewhere there are separated or off-road lanes.
baudman wrote:Would I like to see that 60% take up transport cycling at least some of the time? Hellyeah!
baudman wrote:cold_erin wrote:I like separated lanes. They make me feel safer, and I'm more likely to cycle somewhere there are separated or off-road lanes.
They're not building them for 'us'. They're building them for the category 3, above. Cold_Erin has shown she's a little more confident/committed than a Cat 3, but my guess is they share the same sentiment at times. And that's 60% of the population. Would I like to see that 60% take up transport cycling at least some of the time? Hellyeah!