Atomic Kitten wrote:Agreed, Russell. And you will find MANY people here (and in other arenas) who thought the start in Falls Creek was a sick, sick joke. As you rightly point out, finishing up the back of Falls is equally brain dead.
Hitchy wrote:yoyo wrote: I really enjoyed the climb over Hotham even though it did take me 2 and a half hours.
Strewth!...2.5 hrs on Hotham would have been a long way from the worst, so you were going OK ish there....I'd assumed you'd done Hotham 'tough' & that was largely responsible for your 7 hrs to DP.....but 7 hrs, less 2.5 =4.5hrs to cover the other 85km, 40 of which is 'steep' down hill & the rest is flat or 'a little' down hill (hotham heights to DP)....you mentioned you were slow on the descents, but sheesh...you must have gone through a set of brake pads!
Cyclenut wrote:Atomic Kitten wrote:Agreed, Russell. And you will find MANY people here (and in other arenas) who thought the start in Falls Creek was a sick, sick joke. As you rightly point out, finishing up the back of Falls is equally brain dead.
I can't imagine any possible worse start/finish point than Falls Creek, including Hotham... My personal choice for a start line would be Omeo, hit BOF with fresh legs, sure Hotham would be tough, but at least it has a couple of points where it backs off and nothing as steep as BOF, plus then the last 60 kays down to a finish at Omeo. I'm hoping this is an Option Audax might provide next year, there has been talk of different start points...whether it happens is another thing. My plan next year after finishing the ACE in 15 hrs,- more than an hour worse than the first year is to not back of the riding at all this year, and do more long distance endurance training. I WILL conquer the BOF without multiple stops and walking next year!!!
Cyclenut wrote:If an Omeo start was offered I don't think the numbers would be huge, your looking at roughly 400 riders total for the ACE so I'd guess you'd be lucky to have 100 choose an Omeo start (If its on offer..) That amount would spread out pretty easily well before Blue Duck Inn. It would be nice climbing the back of falls and not seeing the human tragedy and agony that you normally see!!! (well not as much anyway)
yoyo wrote:. I did a lot of training at Mt Macedon just north of Gisbourne in Victoria. This climb has around 2-3km of 11,12 and 13% its "relief" is 8%. Takes me 90 mins to drive there but it was the best thing i did. First time I tried Macedon I got 50 meters around the corner and said to my brother "I'm done" I just could not get up the bloody thing even with compact 11/25, ordered 11/28 the next day.
yoyo wrote:. Whilst I was grumpy with the "missunderstanding" of cut offs etc (over it now) I did laugh when you mentioned the break pads... you are 3/4 right they are almost done, glad you made me check. Slow decent, slow top ups of water, plus I spent too much time being the Karate Kid... jacket on, jacket off etc. I can suffer from the good old hunger flat so i made sure I ate well at Harietville, after they finally found my feed bag. Not the best place to pig out before you hit even the 9-10% curve as you start Hotham lost 17mins at harritville alone. I will not make these mistakes next time. Probabley a whole set of new ones!!! I knew I could get up falls even if I had to stop every couple of kays to let the HR recover just knew that it was not going to happen by Departing Hotham at 2.30ish, I would have need 6.5+ hrs as i would needed a good feed in Omeo. I was sick of energy bars even after the third one. My brother saw one bloke on the back of falls bring up about 6 hours worth of Poweraide.
yoyo wrote:. I have learn't heaps, and like so many others that have not completed their first attmept, I will give it another crack.
did you do 3pc this year? go ok?
yoyo's signature wrote:To Peak or not to Peak, that is the question.
Atomic Kitten wrote:yoyo's signature wrote:To Peak or not to Peak, that is the question.
Computer says, "Nooooo."
russell wrote:Don't be embarrassed the routes are NOT the same, the geography is the same. They are very different "rides" when you consider the times that each section is ridden. Firstly the start/end point is some 65kms away by road, this is a very significant point.
There is some 1300m difference in elevation for the start and end points (cf Bright (300m) and Falls Ck (1600m). If you consider 2 riders completing the distance in the same time on the 3PC and AAC250 course, assume they take approx 16hours (~ 15kph) they start at 7am and finish at 11pm. The 3PC rider is riding at 1600m alt over the last 2 hours, the AAC250 rider is riding at a max of 700m alt. A kilometre lower altitude, if this is not a significant difference I will eat my chamois!
The Alpine region is notorious for sudden and severe weather changes, I doubt you could reasonably compare the risks associated with riding from Mt Beauty to Bright (30kms) with riding the back of Fallls Ck.
Having said that I understand why BV would have a cut off time to avoid claims of negligence.
Euan wrote:Jason S wrote:brycerider wrote:Having looked at the 3 Peaks site I would concur that the marketing doesnt give any real sense of how hard the ride would be - particularly if you hadnt lined up for a similar serious alpine ride line the AAC200 etc. Not that it is relevant for you.
I have to agree.
I'll post a ride report shortly but in brief, it was the most brutal cycling event that I've ever participated in (and I've ridden at least x 5 AAC 200kms). In particular, expecting someone to cycle 35kms straight up (as in, STRAIGHT UP!!!) the back of Falls Creek with 200km already in the legs is, IMHO, bordering on cruel and unusual punishment.
I'm a decent climber, and I'm not afraid to admit that I cried when I crossed the finish line such was my mental and physical state. Only this morning did my body begin to feel normal again.
Did you enjoy it?
Jason S wrote:It all depends on context.
The first 200km were great. The last 35km were unadulterated murder.
Looking back now with my body and mind finally back to normal, yes, I loved the ride and the fact that I overcame the pure challenge of it.
But for various reasons, I doubt I'll do it again.
parawolf wrote:You just enjoy the post-ride beer too much Hitchy
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