mhayli wrote:There is one set lights that I often go through on red....
It is a smallish (an 'orange' road intersecting a 'black' road) intersection that on my morning rides, I go through just before 5am. At that time of the morning, there are few cars around. I generally delibrately miss riding over the sensor, then wait until there are no cars around then go through the intersection. I know this is illegal, but my justification is that at 5am, a single car having to stop at a set of lights to let one bike through is going to do less for motorist/cyclist relations than what me running a red light will do.
At all other times of day (coming back through the same intersection at about 6am for example), and at all other lights, I stop when red.
J-Lo wrote:Can someone confirm for me - or point to previous discussion if one has been had! - re: "over-taking on the left" being permitted (FAQ in road rules article) . . .
that doesn't permit "splitting" between parked cars and the left lane, does it?
Ie. where there is no bike lane, I didn't think it was legal to ride up between parked cars and the traffic.
J-Lo wrote:that doesn't permit "splitting" between parked cars and the left lane, does it?
J-Lo wrote:Ie. where there is no bike lane, I didn't think it was legal to ride up between parked cars and the traffic.
A number of incidents lately has prompted a question. What do you do when cycling?
Do you stop at that Red Light?
Do you swerve all over the road?
Do you cut anyone off?
Do you obey the road rules?
Let us know what you do!
Bear in mind that this is not having a go at anyone, we are intrested to see what other riders do!
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Euan wrote:I lane claim throughout the length of that stretch and merge with the right lane on the approach to each intersection. Yes it's a little anti-social towards cars and the like but it's the only way to safely negotiate that stretch in a legal manner.
mjs wrote:Quite unusually yesterday on the way home I saw a sign on Whithall street crn of Sommerville road suggesting bikes do a hook turn
It is what I do there all the time anyway but I have not seen it before. It says Bike Route and then the hook turn simbol.
Yes, you do have a point.damhooligan wrote:i don't think you wil read many story's about :
i do not obey the road rules.
I'm sure everybody wil say , I DO.
to avoid having to justify why they are doing it.
yes , mostly i do obey the rules , but not always.
When i ride in traffic (on my own)
i ride very assertive, wich means :
yes, depending on the situation , i don't always obey the rules.
I wil cut cars off , if i have to. (never cut cyclist off)
We are too focussed on the color of the light, but more important are the circumstances aound that light.
So yes I go trough red on some occasions.
I don't think we all just should blindly follow the rules,
sure they are there for our protection , but not always safer.
My biggest problem I have grown up in cycling friendly and cycling safe country,and i see a lot of traffic hazzards here, wich should not even be there,
but if you follow the rules , you put yourself at unnessesary risks.
So sometimes you are safer/better off dis-obeying that law.
Traffic can be brutal, 1 mistake is all it takes.
so i wil avoid taking those risks.
I can understand that a lot of people wil dissagree with me, and feel free to say so. But don't expect to convince me , because it won't change my behavior at all.
Probably for a big part why i wil never change is that where i grew up disobeying the law is normal/standard and part of the culture.
But hey at least i'm honest enough to admit that i break the rules,
there are so many stories about reports of bad cyclist on this forums,
I wonder where they are??
there are probably a few of those here on this forum , but not according to the reply's so far ...
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