Twowheels wrote:Sorry to hear about your accident, I know the stretch so well! Tip for the grazes, make sure there is no dirt in them! If there is, have a large glass of alcohol, and if you have a scrubbing brush give it a little brush until the dirt is out.
FreoIsHome wrote:Had my first accident today, on the South Perth foreshore cycle path. Its one of the few paths that actually has two distinct paths separated with a small grass verge, one for pedestians the other for cyclists.
Two young ladies, walking in the bike path, one in each lane! I rung the bell and good old fashioned english one at that, no response rung again, pulled to the right, and without looking one lady stepped right into my path. Crash!!
I'm not a particulalry fast rider, wish I were, so it could have been worse. It took me 3.5 hours to get around the bridges short course.
The girls didn't apologise in fact lambasted me for not ringing louder, sooner and more often, and I should have been going slower! Of course the eyes in the back of their heads were a great help!
I hit my head quite hard, shattered my helmet. Hurt one finger and palm, thank goodness I had gloves. Bruised and grazed my hip, shoulder and back.
Bent front wheel, lucky I had my spoke spanner. Twisted bars and bent brake. I think the front brake and wheel will need professional attention.
The paths are all well labelled with keep left, if they had done that, all would be well for everyone. Maybe Main Road WA need to place some TV ads about keeping left, with the increased number of us on dual or single use paths?
When I got home I soaked in a warm bath. But I can feel my baby boomer body going into shut down mode. I ache all over!
Any tips for treating grazes and the body shut down feeling?
FreoIsHome wrote:The overly cautious would say that you should slow to the walkers pace, if as in this case you get no reaction, but I think my 50-60km trip would have take a lot longer, and been no preparation for the trip at all.
In my fall I wasn't skidding, it was primarily a thump and bounce, I distictly remember my head bouncing on the tarmac, and for those moments it felt like it was actually my skull hitting the road, as the helmet made no noise or sensation, it did a remarkable job.
My hip took most of the blow. I think the bike damage wasn't excessive considering it was a direct hit, she stepped right within less than a bikes length, so I couldn't take any evasive action at all. She got the front tyre, I was catapulted over her shoulder, and the bars and brake damage were probably from the it hitting the ground.
The girls didn't hang around, after having a go at me. I straightened myself and the bike, I passed the two girls, again not on the pedestrian path, and they shouted at me, there's nothing wrong with you! I stopped later when I realised the rim was rubbing the brake quite severely, and tried to do some truing.
As much as anything I was shaken by their attitude. They didn't give a dam about their actions, consequence, me or my bike. I think had the boot been on the other foot it would have been totally different.
Never underestimate how stupid some pedestrians can be. I am not suggesting the people in the above incident were stupid or to blame. However I am always amazed at how pedestrians find new ways to react to a cyclists bell or a shout, particularly when in pairs. For example:
1) Left pedestrian moves right and right pedestrian moves left and bump into each other
2) Right pedestrian steps right and turns to face cyclist and is then surprised at how close the bike is to them
3) Right hand pedestrian steps to the far right to allow the bike to go through the middle
4) Both left and right pedestrian move right to allow the bike to pass on the left
5) Pedestrians walking down the wrong side of the path see oncoming bike, step back to the correct side straight into a bike coming the other way
6) I have on the odd occasion encountered pedestrians who actually move left when they hear the bell!
julietbravo wrote:Dave B, I love your observations! I think thats about every scenario covered. Mind you the other day I was cycling through the city on a cycle path. Pedestrians ahead walking two abreast so even though there was nothing coming towards me in the opposite lane I thought I'd do the decent thing and make them aware of my presence and my intention to overtake. So DING on the bell. No response. So slowed right down and repeated DING DING. NO response.So again I'm on the bell DING DING DING. As I passed the group one of them said to the others "Must have their dinner ready at home" . Well no actually.... bell ringing isn't because you're in a hurry. It's to prevent pedestrians performing unpredictable manouvers in front of cyclists. If no-one acknowledges your presence how are you supposed to know that THEY know you are there ? I wasn't expecting the group to move over. But if one of them had made eye contact or made some sort of sign of acknowledgement I wouldn't have had to wear out their ear-drums.
So shall we add them to the list Dave?
I cant see how you can claim anything being conclusive, etc. You weren't there, and all your comments are just generalities, and relatives. Really no help to anyone.
You might just as well say, don't ride!
I look forward to you demonstrating an effective emergency stop, one bike length from the situation, at any speed! Even though my hands were on the levers, I doubt I even reacted, but obviously you are different!
Don't let Euan get to you. Look around the forum and you will find his opinions, most of them demonstrating a lack of objectivity and a lot of hot air! Taking quotes from previous posts and using pseudo-facts to refute them.
IMO if you were not there, you have no conclusive proof of anything.
As you are in Melbourne, please tell me what your experience of this particular path is and how you know that freoishome's speed was too high?
Please prey tell, what relevance does the Victorian traffic code have to the WA traffic code?
What are you trying to achieve by having a go at another cyclist, he was merely relating his experience and perhaps warning others of the risks of riding among pedestrians?
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