Euan wrote:indiwood wrote:the point you guys all seem to miss on these forums constantly is this. Bitching about ' he said, she said' or 'he did it first' type **** in these situations isn't the point at all. The fact that joggers or pedestrians ignore the lights doesn't matter. Think about who's watching. You wouldn't shoot through a red as a pedestrian, on a bike or in your car if you had your kids, you're nephew or niece or your mates kids with you, why, because you'd be thinking about the fact that kids learn from example and copy people. Your baby brother or your kids or what ever might think you are real cool and try and do the same thing one day on their own but they wouldn't necessarily have the ability to read the speed of an on coming car or tram or what ever.
So why would you think any differently in any other situation, there is always going to be some young person around watching you and they might decide to copy you. They might not even be young, there are plenty of idiots in the world so why lead by a bad example. It takes a couple of minutes of waiting to make sure that some idiots doesn't decide that "that cyclist or pedestrian shot through the light, why can't I in my car"
Why not just lead by good example, I spend enough time on the country highway where I live dealing with P plater's who throw their passenger door open at me at 100 K's. I really don't want anyone else to have a reason to hate me for being on 'their' road
It's not about leading by example, it's about not being held to a double standard. That's what's happening here and you're blind if you don't see it.
sigh... Life is about leading by example Euan.