A MELBOURNE councillor has voiced concerns about a controversial plan to make Princes Bridge more bike-friendly by removing two car lanes, saying other options should be explored first.
Cr Richard Foster said a better delineation of the bike lanes over the busy bridge should be among them.
"We haven't yet made efforts to colour, pave or widen them . . . We have a line painted on a ground with a symbol of a bike, and I think we can do a lot better than that," Cr Foster said.
"These are the sorts of things that could well relieve congestion without first interfering with traffic lanes."
The Herald Sun revealed the Melbourne City Council proposal, which would cost about $150,000, last month.
Cr Foster said there were also "significant pedestrian access issues" with the nearby tram stop.
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biggers wrote:I might have known it may be too good to be true. Melbourne City Councillor Richard Foster has expressed concerns about this plan:A MELBOURNE councillor...
baudman wrote:biggers wrote:I might have known it may be too good to be true. Melbourne City Councillor Richard Foster has expressed concerns about this plan:A MELBOURNE councillor...
Yup. 'A' Melbourne councillor. As opposed to the number who ARE in favour. And which media outlet is reporting it that way again? Hmmm....
(Still, sorta surprised that he'd be against it).
Riddley wrote:The Greens have long proposed that Elizabeth St be mad into a mall, or at least adjusted to provide for people rather than cars.
jcyclist wrote:Riddley wrote:The Greens have long proposed that Elizabeth St be mad into a mall, or at least adjusted to provide for people rather than cars.
Really? since when? The tram groups are shutting down the southern block (Flinders to Flinders Lane) i believe very shortly to expand the tram terminus to 3 (possibly 4?) across bays
Murray wrote:wagger wrote:To ask the question, from someone who genuinely doesn't know and has never ridden Princes bridge in peakhour, why do they not lower the existing bike lane next to the pedestrians (that is sh!t currently)
Ie. take out the part of the footpath that pedestrians wrongly walk on ( the section marked for bikes) and make this level with the road and just make it a wider onroad bike lane?
There would still be plenty of path for pedestrians?
Cost? All Too hard?
I think you'd find that, during the truly busy periods, this would lead to considerable pedestrian congestion. Tourists love to stop and take photos of themselves with Melbourne and the river in the background - that really would clog up if you reduced the (apparently) available space by 50%.
But, it's really irrelevant. The cars have got nowhere to go at the northern end except into a queue at the tram stop crossing and at the Flinders Street corner so why provide a big, wide fill pipe to that blockage when there's room to expand the pipes which can flow without actual adverse impact?
Actually Wagger, I don't think you would even need to lower the bridge to the road. I don't see why they can't just widen the "almost bike lane' that is there now by a few feet into the pedestrian footpath and just make it a lane wide enough not to be doored. There is already a painted line for a bike path on the bridge that is barely used. You wouldn't even need to extend it that far. That bridge is huge and even in summer at peak times, there is plenty of space for pedestrians to walk.
Motorists would be happy, cyclists would be happy and pedestrians would actually get the whole footpath back and not have to worry about the lone cyclist that tries to use the token bike lane painted on the bridge. Just my two cents worth anyway.
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