smc wrote:So you take Armstrong out of the winners list and move the next place up to first, then you find they are a cheat so you move the next one up... so 14th place may have a chance?
squeaza wrote:Still sad about Hincapie Very heartening to read of him saying that he'd never seen any evidence of drug-taking at the subsequent teams he rode for though.
roshea wrote:squeaza wrote:Still sad about Hincapie Very heartening to read of him saying that he'd never seen any evidence of drug-taking at the subsequent teams he rode for though.
Something that's been grating with me, and nicely summed up here: all of these ex-teammates suddenly stopped doping when they finished riding with Lance and still maintained competitive results?
GreenEDGE director Matt White stands down after admitting to doping with Lance Armstrong
AUSTRALIA'S most influential cycling coach Matt White has confessed to being a part of the Lance Armstrong doping conspiracy that has become the biggest drug scandal in sporting history.
White, 38, a former Olympian, last night stood down from his jobs as the sports director of the emerging Australian professional team Orica-GreenEDGE and coordinator of Cycling Australia's men's road racing program.
"I am sad to say that I was part of a team where doping formed part of the team's strategy and I too was involved in that strategy," White said in a statement that followed a day of crisis talks with GreenEDGE founder, Melbourne businessman Gerry Ryan, and the team's manager, Shayne Bannan, who are both in China.
"My involvement is something I am not proud of and I sincerely apologise to my fans, media, family and friends who trusted me and also to other athletes in my era that consciously chose not to dope."
White's confession comes as the fallout from the scandal begins to spread, with Armstrong having been stripped of his seven victories in the world's biggest race, the Tour de France, and banned from all sport for life after a long investigation by the United States Sports Drugs Agency.
Several other international cyclists have been given much shorter bans after confessing to their involvement and testifying against Armstrong.
Another disgraced American cyclist, former Tour winner Floyd Landis, told the investigators he shared banned blood booster EPO and testosterone with US Postal Services team-mates White and Michael Barry in 2003 when preparing for the Tour of Spain.
Landis made the allegation in sworn statements to the US Anti-Doping Agency, which has condemned Armstrong as the mastermind of the sophisticated conspiracy to cheat on a massive scale and to coerce other rides to do the same.
Ryan and Bannan are in China for the Tour of Beijing as cycling shudders under the weight of the latest doping shock waves.
White, who is married to Olympic race walker Jane Saville, is responsible for selecting national teams to compete at the Olympics and world championships and for guiding the careers of young riders on the way up.
His salary at GreenEDGE is not known but is likely to be several hundred thousand dollars.
Landis said White and Barry, who recently retired after a stint with UK-based Team Sky, had both used EPO and testosterone.
White rode alongside Armstrong from 2001-03 and later with the same team when it was known as Discovery Channel in 2006-07.
In his statement, he said he stopped his racing career because he had the opportunity to "to be part of something that had the potential to actually change cycling."
He joined the American team Garmin, which employed some of the most talented young Australian cyclists and was committed to drug-free cycling.
But he was sacked early last year after taking one of those young Australians, Victorian Trent Lowe, to a Spanish doctor with links to US Postal without the permission of Garmin's medical people.
White said he "always acted within the ethos of clean sport and I am very proud to have worked with the new generation of clean superstars" while working with Garmin, GreenEDGE and Cycling Australia.
"A lot has changed for the better, cycling is totally different now, and I have seen these changes as an athlete and also in management with my own eyes in the last decade," he said.
"I am sorry for the people I have let down because of the personal choice I made at hat time, but I have endeavoured to educate and guide the current stars and to ensure that future generations never have to deal with the pressures that existed in the past."
White said he would wait for GreenEDGE and Cycling Australia to decide whether he had a future in the sport.
Cycling Australia was first made aware of Landis's allegations in May 2010.
Cycling Australia then referred the matter to the Australian Sports Anti Doping Authority (ASADA).
In February last year, ASADA said it was aware of the claims made by Landis but could not comment further.
roshea wrote:It's suddenly gone very quiet over at the Americans Against the USADA Facebook page ...
fixie wrote:It suddenly goes very quiet over here.
Am I missing something?
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