Apologies for the long posting ... replying to gozzo's message bit by bit, with a few suggestions of my own at the end!!!
gozzo wrote:According to Penny - 58kms one way.
Drop car at Whittlesea & ride to Yea return, by that logic, gives you 116kms - certainly a do-able ride - about 2 hours' riding in the dark.
At 20kph average, a 4am start Sunday from Whittlesea would get you to Yea around 7am.
I don't have "seeing road" lights at the moment (that might change soon though) ... and 4 am sounds a pretty early start to me. (OK, I admit it, my body clock is still warped because of assignments = late nights!)
gozzo wrote:There is a Vline bus leaving from Southern Cross Station 18:00 Saturday - but that assumes you can get bikes on board and stay overnight in Yea.
V line website (large items) wrote:
Bicycles and Surfboards
These items can be carried free of charge on V/Line trains, but passengers are strongly advised to avoid weekday services that:
· arrive into the city between 07:00 and 09:30
· depart the city between 16:00 and 19:00
Bicycles and surfboards must not obstruct passageways or doorways and must not inconvenience other passengers. As space for bicycles is limited, please bear in mind it might not be possible to travel with your bike on the particular service you plan to take.
On some V/Line services, items should be stowed in the location(s) designated by the Conductor. Your conductor will advise you if this is the case.Generally V/Line coaches do not carry bicycles, surfboards, surf skis, sailboards, canoes and similar items.
There is an exception for coach services along coastal routes where surfboards and boogie boards may be carried subject to available space on the day of travel. Passengers are reminded that this applies to both the forward and return legs of the journey. Call us on 136 196 for more information.
I don't think its a good idea to hope to take V-line coach with bikes up to Yea.
gozzo wrote:Or just meet up @ Whittlesea & ride up Saturday afternoon - which allows for a Kinglake detour, if required - pitch tent somewhere in Yea for Saturday night and ride back with the mob on Sunday.
That sounds do-able ... definately hybrids (with panniers) for that one though, given we'd have to carry tents somehow! Unless we manage to find accomodation in Yea in a caravan place in Yea on the Saturday night => no need to carry tent.
One option that might be more feasible would be to catch the train to Seymour on the Saturday, and ride from Seymour to Yea (approx 40 km).
<correction> After looking at the V-line website in more detail ... it appears that coaches will be replacing MOST trains between Southern Cross and Seymour most weekends, due to the Craigeburn Rail Project. HUMPH</correction>
I had a look at the online timetable ... and it appears that this service will be a TRAIN, not a COACH.
18:33 (6:33 pm) Southern Cross -> 19:51 (7:51 pm) Seymour.
Given it is 40 km (approx) from Seymour to Yea (have no idea on the terrain) ... I suppose we could stay in Seymour on the Saturday evening, have an early start and ride down to Yea by 8 am (or so) on the Sunday morning to meet the "mob" in Yea to ride to Whittlesea.
From Whittlesea it is ...
approx 30 km
to Craigieburn OR approx 35 km
to Broadmeadows (end of the "Met" line ... so on a Sunday, $2.50 ticket, and can easily take bikes:D)
That (Seymour -> Yea -> Whittlesea -> Broadmeadows) would be ...
40 km + 58 km + 35 km = 130-135 km (approx)
I've done 100+ km in a day twice before ... once on GVBR 2004, and then this year (150 km) on ATB (Sorrento to Melbourne). So I feel 130 km in a day would be doable - provided I keep the food intake up of course!
As for Kinglake - we can always do that climb another time, if we don't have time to fit it in this time. Now that I don't have assignments, it is easier to justify sitting on a train for ages to get to the other end of town to go for a ride! I am trying to get around on my own steam (+ public transport) rather than borrow a parent's car. Even though for something like Kinglake, I *might* be able to convince dad to come too to share petrol/driving.
Its easiest for me to get to Frankston (30 mins on train) and then ride down to Dromana / Arthurs Seat ... but I haven't even done that yet, apart from the Frankston -> Dromana ride in September, and on the way to Rosebud for ATB ... when I didn't want to go up Arthurs Seat on the Saturday because I needed to save my legs for the Sunday!
For the super keen, I notice that there is an Audax ride from Trafalgar -> Noojee -> Bona Vista -> Trafalgar on the Saturday 2nd Dec. (100 km).
I don't like my chances of being able to do a twin century on the weekend on the bike though ... unlike Ricky Ponting who scored twin centuries in his 100th test at the SCG earlier this year