wagger wrote:Dandenong station is a no go zone after dark for many females.
Any train station late @ night brings fear to many female's minds
My wife doesn't share that opinion.
I think too many people are reading that little paper.
Scare mongering is front and centre to their mission whenever I read it.
We live in one of the safest countries in the world IMO and Victoria is my pick of Australia's states.
Another instance of that debate I came across in the last 6 months - was in the context of a worker in the welfare sector telling me about a client (who I'd interviewed for a website article) in a course she was running who is legally blind, worker said she was worried about her getting the train home late at night, not having a Cabcharge card, and always asked client to sms her on arriving home safely. I asked: was it because of her eyesight? Worker said no not just her eyesight, she's just a little tacker, she only comes up to here on me.... At some point after that she told me that I was about the same height as the client [in fact I think the client in question is a good couple of inches shorter than me] said "You're just a little tacker too" nudging me. I said (whether correctly or incorrectly - it was just what I could think of quickly) that not many women would be able to fight off a large man unless they have had martial arts training, and that I don't think attackers specifically look to target people under 5'4"! (Worker seemed to agree.) What I didn't think of saying was that I'm likely around average strength for a woman i.e. smaller doesn't always mean weaker!
Other things I said at some point during the conversation (either before or after that) were that I'd often caught trains late at night even though I have a car... plus my usual arguments of there being different opinions as to how safe or dangerous it is, and it being each person's individual choice re their safety. She said that she wouldn't catch a train after a certain time at night, and said something about even if there's only 1% risk, you don't want to take the chance. What I thought of too late afterwards (what I couldn't think quickly enough to say at the time) is that I'm sure the risk is FAR less than 1% (given the large number of women who travel by train late at night, even if only occasionally) - although I realise she may not have been thinking of a literal percentage figure - and also that, as with safety for children, it's impossible to be 100% risk-free, be it day or night, male or female!
An illustration of the last argument: a few years ago someone posted in an online group that her young adult daughter in a busy shopping centre had a large man in a car reach out and grab her, trying to drag her into the car, and she was only able to save herself by, having a martial arts background, instantly giving him a kick on the kneecap. Some would argue that stories like this show that the world is such a dangerous place for women and children
but I think on the contrary, it's just an example of how the possibility of stranger danger (no matter how remote) is not automatically sufficient reason to avoid something!