baudman wrote:We have two permanent 40km/h zones on heavily trafficked roads in our 'burb (and yes, we're in the City of Melbourne). One is near the primary school, the other is on a mild slope which is the main shopping strip.
Peak hour. Both would be lucky to get traffic over 20km/h. Other times, 40km/h is pretty-much all people would do. Late at night would be the only time most drivers would attempt to go faster.
The above work zones very well. And there's plenty of precedent already where it does - shopping strips, areas near railway stations etc. It's a 'traffic calming' solution which, if people followed, would largely negate the need for other traffic calming solutions such as speed humps, chicanes, table-tops etc etc etc.
First of all I'llp ut my hand up and say I'm in favour of Mark Skaifes (sp?) road use proposal.
As somebody with a 50/50 use of car and bike, time wise, I suggest that lowering the back streets to 40 in a blanket approach for Melbourne is silly. Melbourne is a ridiculously large city with the vast majority of back street being able to easily handle 50kph. Wouldn't teaching people to drive to the prevailing conditions be a better step? Sure there are areas where it could work but for example Whitehorse Rd Balwyn has those stupid adjustable speed zone signs and from (IIRC) 7am to 11pm it is a 40 zone. My question is why should an arterial road be reduced from 60 to 40 from 6pm to 11pm when there is very little night life in the area. Balwyn is a dry area with few restaurants in that strip or any schools... Basically it is a bit of a ghost town after peak hour has subsided.
The other issue is a permanent 40kph zone in a wide, straight, back street near my home because it has a secondary school there. Again why have it permanent when the school get next to no after hours use or like now when school holidays are on.
The 2 examples I've shown in my local area are not traffic calming, they are traffic infuriating! I'd also like to see a study on how effective a reduced speed zone is around secondary schools. Shouldn't a child be able to think for themselves on how to cross a road by the age of 12-13? Pretty sure I could, but our daughter is still some way off that age so don't have any recent experience.