Chris_71 wrote:Euan - you've done a nice job of completely missing my point either deliberately or otherwise.
Why did you write ``either deliberately or otherwise?'' That is very rude and antagonistic of you, a tact that's not going to aid meaningful disucssion.
The difference is that bike lanes are a recent phenomena and have been modified recently.
Correct, however the post I responded to had no reference to bike lanes in it, did it? So why are you bringing bike lanes in to this?
It is to educate people on something new. This is what governments do. So saying 'it's just the same as a car doing this to another car' is unfortunately not correct.
In the context of the post I responded to it is correct. You communicated poorly.
And education campaigns have accompanied changes to road laws before. Did you learn about things like hook turns when you were getting your licence? Guess what, there was a reason for that.
As it turns out, I did. I arrived in this country a little over three years ago and had to convert my licnce to an Australian one. In order to pass the test I read the road rules, all of them. This was especially important for me as I'd spent mor time driving in Germany than I had in the UK, let alone Australia. Operating on the wrong set of rules in a given country can have disastrous consequences.
As for newbies: calm down. The etiquette is of course you just accept that you have to wait until it's safe to overtake, it also assists when cyclists leave room for faster cyclists to overtake.
Partially correct. Slow cyclists are under no obligation to assist faster cyclists in overtaking, in fact doing so can cause erratic and un-predictable behaviour. I'd much rather trail a slower cyclist in an on-road bike lane than have that cyclist ride in the door zone to enable me to pass.
It's fair enough that you obviously don't support the idea of driver education, but your responses have been silly and arrogant.
Clearly I have zero interest
What I would like to see is for every driver to be required to demonstrate good road sense on a bicycle before they're even allowed in a car. Can't see it happenning but from my point of view it's a win win. Everyone on the road will know what it's like to be on two wheels in a world of four and new road users learn their road craft using a vehicle much less likely to kill others.
I'm too cool for education! I'm too good a rider! Grow up.
It's been my experience that those who feel the need to dish out that advice athe the ones most in need of heeding it.
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