aardvark wrote: mark_melb wrote: aardvark wrote:
...........Hollowmen. They will set up a committee.
Balls. It'll get changed.
You need to move on, Marky Mark, you'll end up a bitter old man.
aard. It's now not
an on-road bike lane. Removing the signs without removing the separation would be murder.
If someone actually produced a Design Safety Risk Assessement on the original design, Give Way signs would likely have been a requirement
in this situation.
It is the separation that would also need to be removed.
I'd like to get old. I'm bitter already.
It'll get changed so the path has priority. The path should run along a raised section where it crosses side streets (like St Georges Rd shared path).
They've made a mess of implementing this, but I'm prepared to give the concept a go, since I feel the potential benefits of getting the timid cycling can outweigh problems with conflicts at the crossings, especially once these become more common and people know what to do.
And yes, I've seen the diagrams and so on, I still think they're worth trying.
Marky Mark, how can you be a bitter cyclist? Maybe you need to go get a new bike to cheer you up!
You're aware there's a wealth of evidence that two-way off-road cycle paths are particularly hazardous for cyclists? I don't have time to get anything better than Wikipedia right now, but that's a good place to start.
Off road two-way cycle paths stink. They are an absolute abomination.
the creator Shane Foran and holder Galway Cycling Campaign http://www.eirbyte.com/gcc
is credited and the following documents are cited as the sources of the figures.
* Sweden: Leif Linderholm: Signalreglerade korsningars funktion och olycksrisk för oskyddade trafikanter ─ Delrapport 1: Cyklister. Institutionen för trafikteknik, LTH: Bulletin 55, Lund 1984, In: »Russian Roulette« turns spotlight of criticism on cycleways, Proceedings of conference »Sicherheit rund ums Radfahren«, Vienna 1991.
* USA: A. Wachtel and D. Lewiston: Risk factors for bicycle-motor vehicle collisions at intersections, Journal of the Institute of Transportation Engineers, pp 30-35, September, 1994.
* Denmark: S.U. Jensen, K.V. Andersen and E.D. Nielsen: Junctions and Cyclists, Velo-city ‘97 Barcelona, Spain .
* Finland: M Rasanen and H. Summala: The safety effect of sight obstacles and road markings at bicycle crossings, Traffic Engineering and Control, pp 98-101, February, 1998.
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