richard_s wrote:When climbing Oliver's hill, there is a risk using Nepean Hwy (no shoulder, blind corner, drivers expect cyclist to use the alternative*)
Is there? Is there really? I've been up that hill on bicycle and car and it's not THAT blind.
That's what I'm getting at. The risk, IMO, is way over-inflated in peoples minds compared to the reality.
That's my argument. Am I not expressing myself clearly?
Euan's perception is that there is negligible risk cycling up Olivers Hill in his opinion
Euan has been up Olivers Hill 20-30 times
Euan's perception is there is not much of a blind bend
Duckmeister has lived in the area 30+ years
I'd hazard a guess Ducky has been up Olivers Hill atleast once a week for the last five years making his experience of Olivers Hill 250+ ascents (conservatively).
Stealth has also lived in the area for I don't know exactly how long but atleast five years, and based on the same once a week visit would also have ascended Olivers Hill atleast 250+times.
Note the above estimates of ascents are not based on bicycle. I'd think they have both driven up there once a week, having local knowledge of the driving conditions and what other motorists drive like up there, speed differentials of vehicles, etc etc etc
Do I think Ducky and Stealth have an over-inflated idea of the risk?
Nah, I'd say based on Ducky and stealth's experience
of those conditions regularly
over the past five years they have seen
the risk - not perceived it, over inflated it or 'whatever'